Exploring the Universe and the Divine with Rabbi Joe Charnes and Esteemed Scientists

The mysteries of the universe have long fascinated humanity, raising questions about its origins and the role of the Divine in the fabric of existence. On December 16, 2025, Rabbi Joe Charnes hosted a compelling session of Seeking Sacred Understanding that began probing these profound topics. Joined by Dr. Richard J. Joseph, former Chief Scientist of the United States Air Force, and Colonel Mario Serna, PhD, the conversation bridged science, philosophy, and spirituality in a way that invites reflection and curiosity.

Exploring the cosmos through scientific and spiritual lenses

The Universe and Its Origins

The discussion began with the origins of the universe, a subject that blends scientific inquiry with philosophical wonder. Dr. Richard J. Joseph shared insights from his extensive career in physics and national security, emphasizing how scientific models explain the Big Bang and cosmic evolution. He highlighted how science provides a framework to understand the physical universe but also acknowledged the limits of empirical knowledge when addressing why the universe exists at all.

Colonel Mario Serna brought a unique perspective, combining his background in theoretical physics with his military experience. He explained how scientific theories often intersect with deeper questions about meaning and purpose. Their dialogue showed that exploring the universe’s beginnings is not just about facts but also about seeking a narrative that connects human experience with cosmic reality.

The Place of the Divine in Science

One of the most engaging parts of the session was the exploration of the Divine’s role in scientific understanding. Rabbi Joe Charnes guided the conversation toward how faith and science can coexist rather than conflict. Dr. Joseph and Colonel Serna discussed how many scientists find inspiration in the order and complexity of the universe, which can point to a higher intelligence or purpose.

They also addressed common misconceptions that science excludes spirituality. Instead, they proposed that science and faith answer different questions—science explains how things happen, while spirituality explores why.

Why This Conversation Matters

This session of Seeking Sacred Understanding offers a rare opportunity to hear from experts who navigate the intersection of science, faith, and philosophy. Whether you are curious about cosmology, interested in the dialogue between religion and science, or seeking thoughtful perspectives on big questions, this discussion provides valuable insights.

The recording of the event is available here.